Sauté pan size, weight, and thickness

Reference: Measurements, weight, and thickness

These tables can help you estimate the thickness of pans you see listed online.

In my experience, the thickness of the copper in a pan is the single most important indicator of how it will perform in use — and also its value. The problem is that many online copper sellers don’t think to include copper thickness in the listing (or don’t know how to measure it accurately). For that reason, the weight of the piece is often its most important attribute: if you know the weight of a pan, you can assess how thick the copper is likely to be.

But in order to do that, you need some known pieces to which to compare it, so I’ve pulled together a bunch for you. I trust these numbers with the caveat that they’re collected with amateur equipment — that is, a tape measure, dial caliper, and home digital scale.

There’s a lot of data so I’ve broken the tables out by type of pan.

How to use this information

Let’s say you’re looking at the online listing for a 26cm copper sauté pan. The seller doesn’t say how thick it is, but says it weighs “about 7½ pounds.” Look below at the sauté pan table: the closest 26cm pan by weight is 7.24 lbs and it’s 2.5mm thick — looks like the seller’s sauté pan is probably about the same thickness.

You’ll see below that for certain types of pots — rondeaux, stewpots, stockpots, and soup pots — I provide two weights (where possible): first for the pot alone, and then again for the pot and the lid weighed together. My experience is that these types of pots are usually (but not always) sold with a lid, and that the seller usually (but not always) weighs the pot and the lid together for the listing. While it’s certainly wonderful to have a fitted lid, you can’t tell from that combined weight how much copper is in the the body of the pot where it really matters. Make sure you understand what weight value you’re seeing in the listing, and if all you have is pot with lid, use the values below to approximate the thickness of the pot without the lid.

Anomalies

There are some situations where the numbers can be misleading, so I’ve added notations in the table beside the measurements that will be out of whack.

  • (A) Antique pans with thick base and thinner sidewalls. In this case, the rim measurement will be too low for the pan’s functional thickness, so I’ve added an (A) next to the thickness value for that pan. (These are fantastic pans to have, by the way — the place you most want thick copper is in the base of the pan!)
  • (H) Helper handles. A second handle on a sauté pan, skillet, or saucepan will add weight. I’ve added an (H) next to the weight entry, which will be unusually high for a pan of that thickness.
  • (R) Rolled rim. Some pans have a reinforced rim: the copper at the pan’s lip is curled over a slender ring of iron to provide structural rigidity. That iron ring adds extra weight to the pan that makes it seem heavy even though the copper is likely thin, so look for the (R) next to the weight, which will be unusually high for a pan of that thickness.

I hope this helps you know what to expect when you buy a piece of copper online. As always, let me know if you have questions about this!


Rondeaux

22cm no-name rondeau
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Pan weight only (g)Weight with lid (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Pan weight  only (lbs)Weight with lid (lbs)
5116.51611620.16.535.533.0
5017121801570019.76.726.8534.612.5
4011.5107301312815.74.523.6628.944.0
408.5656215.73.314.473.0
40176446873215.76.714.2119.252.7
3811817415.04.318.023.8
3612.57958949814.24.917.5420.943.6
3612.5916214.24.920.203.6
3614888014.25.519.583.0
3613.57712919214.25.317.0020.263.0
349718213.43.515.834.0
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Pan weight only (g)Weight with lid (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Pan weight  only (lbs)Weight with lid (lbs)Thickness at rim (mm)
3212.56390761012.64.914.0916.783.7
3212.5710012.64.915.653.5
3212.5602612.64.913.293.1
3112.5647212.24.914.274.0
30115522696211.84.312.1715.353.0
289.54174509011.03.79.2011.223.3
289.54468539011.03.79.8511.883.0
2892672357811.03.55.897.892.0
2682400325010.23.15.297.172.1
228.5251230568.73.35.546.743.0
186138616427.12.43.063.622.5

Saucepans

30cm saucepan “BG”
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)
3621.514350 (H)14.28.531.64 (H)3.6
343011508 (H)13.411.825.37 (H)2.5
34218982 (H)13.48.319.80 (H)2.8
3017.4826011.86.918.214.3
2815601411.05.913.263.8
2815.5391211.06.18.622.0
2716370610.66.38.171.8
2615405210.25.98.932.5
241343709.45.19.633.4
241345549.45.110.042.8 (A)
2414.543009.45.79.482.7
2414.539729.45.78.762.7
231250009.14.711.023.0 (A)
221233268.74.77.333.1
2212.533948.74.97.482.5
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)Thickness at rim (mm)
2011.520007.94.54.411.7
201136907.94.38.141.8 (A)
201128957.94.36.383.1
181023207.13.95.113.0
181025687.13.95.663.0 (A)
16812566.33.12.771.5
169.519056.33.74.203.0
14.58.510725.73.32.361.8
147.58625.53.01.901.4
148.214605.53.23.222.9
147.56225.53.01.371.3
127.512884.73.02.842.4
127.510754.73.02.373.0
127.56124.73.01.351.3
11.579404.52.82.072.0
106.58223.92.61.812.0

(A) This is an antique pan with a thick base and thin sidewalls, so the rim thickness does not represent the true thickness of the pan.

(H) These saucepans have helper handles, so the weight is going to be greater without increasing the copper thickness.

Sauté pans

40cm Mauviel sauté pan
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)
4410.51514617.34.133.394.0
4213981616.55.121.643.0
4112.59530 (H)16.14.921.01 (H)3.1
4010.5917015.74.120.223.7
3687016 (H)14.23.115.47 (H)3.1
3610.51171214.24.125.824.5
328.5736212.63.316.233.6 (A)
309552011.83.512.173.5
309537011.83.511.843.4
308.6545011.83.412.023.0
308335411.83.17.392.0
306.5305211.82.66.732.0
309565211.83.512.463.5
3010331011.83.97.301.8
287.5535011.03.011.792.5 (A)
288460411.03.110.153.5
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)Thickness at rim (mm)
268.2436610.23.29.633.5
267.53714 (H)10.23.08.19 (H)2.5
268390810.23.18.623.5
267.7328210.23.07.242.5
25.57.7406610.03.08.963.1
247.525309.43.05.581.8
247.726789.43.05.902.6
247.529509.43.06.503.0
24726969.42.85.942.6
247.525169.43.05.552.0
23624009.12.45.292.5
22718488.72.84.071.8
226.819068.72.74.202.0
227.523628.73.05.213.0
226.327088.72.55.973.0
21.56.534588.52.67.623.5
20.55.519468.12.24.292.6
205.513107.92.22.892.0
20620367.92.44.492.9
20620447.92.44.512.8
20620357.92.44.493.0
195.512147.52.22.682.0
185.616657.12.23.673.0
18616007.12.43.533.5

(A) This is an antique pan with a thick base and thin sidewalls, so the rim thickness does not represent the true thickness of the pan.

(H) These sauté pans have helper handles that increase their weight.

Skillets

26cm and 31cm Mauviel skillets
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)
315.5258612.22.25.702.5
314.53194 (H)12.21.87.04 (H)3.1
305.5285011.82.26.282.5
265190010.22.04.192.5
265.5234410.22.25.172.5
20514287.92.03.152.5

(H) This skillet has a helper handle that increases its weight.

Soup pots

14cm Dehillerin soup pot “Hotel de Paris”
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight no lid (g)Weight with lid (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight no lid (lbs)Weight with lid (lbs)
2227454249808.710.610.0110.982.5
21.523295036908.59.16.508.141.9
19.525.5255429487.710.05.636.502.0
1823.5225425787.19.34.975.682.4
1618.525046.37.35.521.5 (A)
1618.5216624426.37.34.785.382.5
1423262228145.59.15.786.202.5

(A) This is an antique soup pot with a thick base and thin sidewalls, so the rim thickness does not represent the true thickness of the pot.

Stewpots

Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Pot weight only (g)Weight with lid (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Pot weight only (lbs)Weight with lid (lbs)
50261844419.710.240.663.0
4022.590381132615.78.919.9324.973.0
4021912415.78.320.112.7
341884041069413.47.118.5323.583.0
3217.56410758612.66.914.1316.723.1
3118640612.27.114.123.0
3016700011.86.315.433.1
2814.5567211.05.712.503.7
28175324625211.06.711.7413.783.2
28156080699611.05.913.4015.424.0
2816.5525411.06.511.583.0
2816.55386631211.06.511.8713.923.2
2613.53880436410.25.38.559.622.6
2612.52720346010.24.96.007.631.8
2414.5251030509.45.75.536.723.0
2011.5204228067.94.54.506.192.0
1813.5240827307.15.35.316.022.5
1611.5147617726.34.53.253.911.5

Stockpots

All about dovetails
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Pot weight only (g)Weight with lid (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Pot weight only (lbs)Weight with lid (lbs)
3838.51530415.015.233.742.5
323299401115612.612.621.9124.592.5
3231.51050012.612.423.152.5
28286480699211.011.014.2915.412.5
26264630556210.210.210.2112.261.5
2423.5299239929.49.36.608.801.2
2424396632609.49.48.747.192.0

Windsors

Flight of Gaillard Windsors
Metric measurementsImperial measurementsThickness at rim (mm)
Inside diameter (cm)Height (cm)Weight (g)Inside diameter (in)Height (in)Weight (lbs)
27.510438410.83.99.673.0
279533410.63.511.763.8
25.59.5323710.03.77.143.4
24834829.43.17.683.5
22825448.73.15.613.2
21828068.33.16.192.5 (A)
20721407.92.84.723.1
207.721007.93.04.632.8
206.520357.92.64.493.0
20720907.92.84.612.6
206.520767.92.64.583.2
18717367.12.83.833.0
176.517466.72.63.853.0
163610 (R)6.31.21.34 (R)0.7
16612106.32.42.672.2
145.69625.52.22.122.4

(A) This is an antique pan with a thick base and thin sidewalls, so the rim thickness does not represent the true thickness of the pan.

(R) This pan has a rolled rim that increases weight.

8 Comments

  1. Hi, this is the first time I have tried access this since you added a lot more information and reformatted the page. Unfortunately I can’t see the all important right-hand column and don’t seem to be able to scroll or shrink to fit my screen as I could before. I am using a smart phone rather than laptop and am not good at this so the fault may well be mine.

    1. Oh no!! I’m so sorry — I work on a laptop and I’m not always aware of how pages look on other devices. I’ve added code to the page so that the tables scroll horizontally rather than get cut off. Does that help?

  2. I am intrigued by the second 20cm saucepan which is almost 800g heavier than the one of similar dimensions listed below yet significantly thinner though not marked as “A” or “H” . Does it have an unusually long or chunky handle?

    1. Roger, thanks for the excellent catch. That particular saucepan is an antique Dehillerin with a thick base and I mistakenly did not note it as (A). I’ve done so — thanks for noticing that!

  3. So far, I thought I knew all pages of VFC. Until yesterday I came across “Reference: Measurements, weight, and thickness”. This page is said to be linked to the “Buyer’s Guide”, but I cannot find it there. No problem, I give this valuable orientation my own bookmark so that I can find it again quickly. By the way, I started to create a similar, albeit less extensive, list a few years ago in order to have my own references in my research. Since then, I have supplemented my list with every discovery.

    1. Martin, I’m so glad it’s useful to you. I had two small reference pages earlier but discussions with a reader showed me that I had more useful data to share, so I consolidated them into one page and added much more data. This page is linked to the Buyer’s Guide under the “Buying copper online” section but perhaps it needs more prominence!

  4. Thank you, now I have discovered the “hiding place”. I appreciate how much work there is behind such a table.

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