What’s going on with this overstamp?
Reader Greg M. caught this listing in early June 2020 on leboncoin.fr and grabbed a photo of it. It looks like a faint Allez Frères stamp overstamped with a Jacquotot stamp:
But the thing is, the pan does not have the right handle. Allez Frères was one of the Parisian department stores that commissioned a custom handle design, and here’s what it looks like. You can see that the baseplate has the same trefoil shape whether in iron or brass.
As far as I can tell from online documents, Allez Frères offered this line of copper from 1873 to 1908. The 128-130 Rue de Grenelle version of the Jacquotot stamp came into use around 1922 when the store expanded. I don’t know exactly when the shop moved to Rue Damesme so I don’t know for how long they kept using this stamp.
What’s going on here? My first thought was a customer turn-in. TJFRANCE has mentioned that some of the makers offered échange de vieille batterie — a customer could exchange old copper for new pieces at a discount. Could this pan be an old Allez Frères that a customer brought in to exchange for new Jacquotot, and Jacquotot simply re-stamped and resold it?
But if so, what happened to that distinctive Allez Frères handle? Its rivet holes are in a different configuration from the holes in the handle it has now. Unfortunately we only have the single photo of the Jacquotot-Allez Frères pan and I can’t see if the inside of the pan shows evidence that it had ever been drilled for the triangular configuration for this baseplate. But even if that were the case, please look below at the mounting of the handle on the Allez-Jacquotot pan next to the mounting on the Allez Frères pan, and specifically how high the side rivets are set. The oblong baseplate is set pretty low on the pan — I think we’d be able to see a filled hole peeking out above the handle if it had been replaced.
Another possibility is that Jacquotot bought up some stamped but as-yet un-drilled pan bodies from Allez Frère’s supplier. The only problem here is the time lag: the last listing I could find for Allez Frères cookware was in 1908, but Jacquotot did not move to 128 & 130 Rue de Grenelle until 1922. Would a supplier sit on a stash of unused copper for more than a decade?
What do you guys think? I wish I’d gone and looked more closely at the listing on leboncoin.fr when it was still up. Did anyone else get a good look at it?